Conversation With Dr. Simon Rogoff: Narcissism and Celebrity, Complex Trauma, and Family Scapegoating Abuse (FSA)

ATTENTION: If you’re not interested in narcissism and celebrity, you can skip to the 31:00 minute mark on this video playback. You can subscribe to my Substack, ‘Healing the Scapegoat Wound’ at https://familyscapegoathealing.substack.com to be notified of my next livestream in your inbox. (Paid subscribers are able to participate in a private Live Chat during the Stream).

A sincere thanks to everyone who tuned into yesterday’s live video with

Dr Simon Rogoff

and our special guest, Dr.

Aun Ali, MBBS

! We had a great subscriber turnout and we appreciated your questions and your participation.

Correction: Elvis’s still-born twin’s name was Jesse Garon Presley (I thought it was Aaron).

What We Discussed: This was my first interview with Dr. Rogoff, author of

Narcissism, Trauma and Celebrity

here on Substack.

The first half hour or so I invited him to share a bit about his professional background as a clinical Psychologist running a Complex Trauma treatment program in the United Kingdom for the National Health Service.

We then explored a few celebrity case studies, looking at how narcissistic abuse and family scapegoating abuse might lead a child to pursue a career in the performing arts.

At the 20:00 minute mark, we then took a ‘deep dive’ into narcissism as a strategy and Complex Trauma (C-PTSD) and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) - the latter being a term that Dr. Rogoff would like to see done away with (and I whole-heartedly agree with him), which we discuss beginning at the 43:00 minute mark.

I jumped in on occasion to integrate Family Scapegoating Abuse (FSA) concepts within the discussion. (And no, I was not trying to look like a pirate - In all my rushing around yesterday morning I forgot to put on my other earring!!)

Dr.

Aun Ali, MBBS

then joined us on camera at the 55:00 minute mark to share his personal experience of being misdiagnosed with BPD and an engaging discussion ensued between Dr. Ali and Dr. Rogoff and my paid subscriber community, who were able to engage with us via the private Live Chat feature.

Check out the SAMHSA website to read about Trauma-Informed Care principles as discussed at the 1:08:00 minute mark at https://opentextbc.ca/peersupport/chapter/samhsas-six-principles-of-trauma-informed-care/

I’m looking forward to hosting both Dr. Rogoff and Dr. Ali again soon. If you have questions for them or me, just put them in the comments here and I’ll do my best to ask them in our next collaborative Livestream.